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The Value Creators Podcast Episode #51. Applying Agile Principles to Transform Management (The B2B Growth Blueprint Repost)

This episode is a repost from The B2B Growth Blueprint Podcast with Mark Osborne.

There is a shift away from traditional management toward self-managed, digitally-enabled companies. We are entering the Post Managerial Era of Capitalism. In this new way of thinking about business and organization, top-down structures are giving way to self-management, where employees make decisions informed by real-time data and customer insights.

Mark Osborne from the B2B Growth Blueprint podcast provided a platform to discuss the implications of this shift.

Mark highlights the role of empathy, emotional engagement, and agile customer feedback in building responsive, customer-centric businesses, and emphasizes the importance of leveraging digital tools to create interactive environments where customers can actively participate and provide invaluable insights. This approach allows businesses to strengthen product development and build loyalty by making customers feel directly involved.

Mark Osborne emphasizes the relevance of these strategies for early-stage companies, emphasizing iterative design and customer engagement, even with limited resources. By integrating these principles, businesses can not only strengthen their product development but also create a loyal customer base that feels directly involved in the process.

Resources:

Learn What They Didn’t Teach You In Business School (The Value Creators Course)

Connect with Hunter Hastings on LinkedIn

Connect with Mark Osborne on LinkedIn

The B2B Growth Blueprint Podcast on Apple Podcast

The B2B Growth Blueprint Podcast on YouTube

thevaluecreators.com

TVC Substack: hunterhastings.substack.com

Knowledge Capsule:

The Revolutionary New Direct Connection Business Model

  • Digital companies are increasingly directly connected to their customers, allowing real-time access to behavioral data. 
  • This data allows companies to act on direct customer needs rather than relying on inferred needs or top-down commands. Amazon is a model example.
  • This direct connection model is a major shift in the business ecosystem, opening up new opportunities for startups, small firms, and any company operating with constrained resources. Direct connection is a different way of doing business.

Role of Data and Insights

  • In this new business system,  behavioral data is more valuable than customer opinions or satisfaction surveys.
  • Data from customer actions, like purchase behaviors and clickstreams, is analyzed to inform decisions, shifting the role of employees to interpreting and innovating based on real customer insights.

Management Evolution – Market Selection

  • Market selection, whereby customer choices directly guide company strategy, replaces traditional management roles.
  • Market selection aligns with modern complex systems theory where valuable patterns emerge when new behaviors are organically selected by the market.

Balancing Data and Human Empathy

  • Mark Osborne emphasizes the role of data and technology, especially in marketing, for understanding and tailoring to customers. 
  • He raises an important point about understanding customer “attitudes”.
  • These are derived by marketers from observed customer behaviors.  Attitudes don’t guide behavior, they’re exhibited in behavior.
  • He gives an example of Henry Ford and Steve Jobs, who innovated without surveying for customer input.

A New Approach to Identifying Customer Needs

  • Rather than relying on what customers say, companies should observe their actions to deduce their needs. 
  • AI and ML can identify the relevant behavioral patterns, while human empathy and mental models are used to interpret and validate the reasons behind behaviors.

Human Intuition and Non-Intuitive Data Insights

  • Mark Osborne acknowledges the value of machine learning in identifying unexpected data relationships. 
  • Hunter argues that even with incomplete behavioral data, companies should examine broader patterns within the customer’s system or environment.
  • For example, changes in one area of behavior could hint at underlying shifts that explain specific purchase frequency changes in other areas. People who work remotely or partially remotely might exhibit new grocery shopping frequencies, or shift to home delivery..

Leverage Customer-Driven Insights

  • Rather than surveying customers, aim to create environments where they can interact with prototypes, share experiences, and even troubleshoot issues, similar to a community-driven model. 
  • This helps capture genuine behavior-based feedback instead of attitude-based feedback, which can be more insightful.

Utilize Generative Platforms

  • Hunter points out that platforms where customers can participate in the development or improvement process — like bug-fixing communities in software or feedback forums for prototypes — foster a sense of ownership among users. 
  • This interaction allows companies to gather useful data without needing to conduct costly or intrusive outreach.

Create a Feedback Loop with Iterative Testing

  • Early-stage companies, especially those constrained by resources, can implement quick, small-scale experiments or beta tests that engage users in a dialogue. 
  • Instead of aiming for a complete MVP, which may risk negative experiences, focus on presenting these as “works-in-progress” and welcome specific input on how to enhance them.

Focus on Needs, Not Just Problems

  • Hunter highlights the importance of distinguishing between immediate issues and broader needs. 
  • By addressing the underlying emotional or performance aspirations of users, companies can build stronger connections and deliver more meaningful solutions.
  • This approach shifts from just solving isolated problems to creating value around what customers genuinely want to achieve.

Scalable Engagement Strategies

  • Rather than direct, small-scale customer interviews, encourage scalable digital interactions through online forums, webinars, or surveys that allow customers to freely share their experiences and ideas. 
  • Companies can create a space where customers feel involved, committed, and valued in the evolution of a product.